"You have tried one of these high thujone absinthes,"

Nope.

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"What do you mean by control for the placebo? "

I'll take that as a no. By 'controling' an experiment you try to lock down all but one or a few variables so you get useful results. So say you want to test the effects of thujone in absinthe. You would get a group of subjects and a bottle of high and low or no thujone absinthe (tested of course)(even better for the test would to get a single bottle of low to no thujone absinthe and dose half the drinks with thujone). Thus the only variable is thujone. You would then give them to your test subjects in a hidden manner so they don't know what is what, and would test them in a number of ways.

Once that is done you would compare the amount of thujone in your "high" Category with the amount found in traditional absinthe.

So far everyone I've seen who says "I drank absinthe and had secondaries because of the high thujone" is running off baseless assumptions.

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"Congratulations on getting zero thujone Lucid into America."

Don't you have a blog to post in?
(Since you have been away, more than just Lucid are sold in the US now.)

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"but don't tell others / mock others for seeking out the new."

Never did. I will however mock people who appear to be here using questionable claims that feed on ignorance to advertise products.

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"Dr Niels Arnold has "ulterior motives: now?"

You didn't actually answer how he got his numbers. But yes, if people like Lachy have ulterior motives then Arnold certainly did as his thesis for the 1989 Sci-Am paper was that Van Gogh drank too much thujone. Obviously absinthe would need to have massive amounts of thujone for his thesis to stand, in which case it would technically be in his best interest to provide a high estimate.

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"When you say you experience secondaries with <1mg thujone are you not confusing that with an alcohol buzz."

Nope I'm not.
But I will find it interesting if you try and dismiss the subjective experience of a large number of drinkers because they don't match your preconceived notions based on subjective experience.


I would also like to know, if this effect you describe was experienced by pre-ban drinkers, A) where is the evidence of said experience and B) why aren't any of these bottles made using traditional methods and recipes?

Post still soaking using Atremsisia absinthium is the new thing, isn't it? That's not just for colouration either. Vallon started it and another one followed.

Several HG'ers have independently confirmed the effect descibed above. This is actually the basis of my curiosity as some of these folks have a mind blowing knowledge of herbals that leaves us all far behind.

An HG'er using an extract....I don't think so! That would be contary to my opinion of that community. Didn't Dr Dirk L report 62mg/l after a 6 month maceration? I think he did. What happens then if you know your herbs? Storage, cultivation, terroir, drying, climatic conditions and the parts of the plant directly influence the thujone levels in Artemisia absinthium. It is not difficult to see how someone with skill - maybe a true resurrection of a Belle Epoque artisan - could produce an absinthe with a profound thujone level. Is it operating like a ménage à trois with the other two herbals? Could it even be -stretching the analogy - a full scale herbal orgy? This is a question which remains unanswered.

For the record I am not totally dismissing Ted Breaux's concept of the herbal speedball. This is an idea which is worthy of greater exploration. One thing seems clear...without thujone you are staying put at Cape Canaveral, or as someone put it in the papers recently "absinthe without thujone is like Playboy magazine without pictures"

No, this is distilled with mastery! For those with an educated palate it is always ranked among the best out of dozens of international brands.
It never produces seizures in people without a history of it but people with epilepsy or even a history of seizures immediately have it triggered by drinking a couple of glasses.
I believe him that he does not use oil mixes. My parents introduced me to him a LONG time ago and he is very well known in the wine industry in the pacific northwest. This guy had been distilling absinthe for fourteen years and has a lot of experience before that. I was just wondering what could trigger seizures so predictably in people (and ONLY in people) with a history of seizures.
I asked him if it could be the beta asarone in the calamus but he sais that could not be the case.
Just wondering.
BTW. I do get an effect different from alcohol. It feels like a sensory stimulant and increases excitability. I like it.